The Asian club: The writer and his times: Agnus Wilson
	An extract from The Asian Club program features Angus Wilson discussing the serious message in his writings. He emphasizes the value of each human being and his interest in portraying the social dynamics of England.
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		S1: You did mention that any writer who has a serious message must sweeten  his pill. What is the serious message that you have?  S2: Mr Wilson? 0:10  S3: That is a very very difficult question.  The serious message that I have, I hope, is that .. aah. human being must be considered as absolute values each one in himself.  That nobody, uh, tht no personal vice or personal defect can  make anybody other than absolutely valuable.  And it’s often said to me that my characters are very unpleasant, it is my view that my characters are painted as real human beings, and that what is the trouble is that most people are taught only to  like people when they have successfully sentimentalised them .  My message is to try say that true liberalism consists in  accepting all human beings  as having equal rights to absolute good treatment.  S2: Mrs Loban, I believe Mr Wilson has never given us this true message before, so we are quite lucky to have it . ( laughter) Shall we have the next question please?  S4: I’m  Amin  from Pakistan. Do you agree Mr Speaker with your critics that  you are too hard on contemporary Britons. What can be your object in exposing the people  in preference  to appreciating their weaknesses, and how far you have achieved that.  1:34 S2: Mr Wilson, here is Mr Amin from Pakistan who  says do you agree with your critics that you are too hard on contemporary Britons?  What is your object in exposing the  people  in preference to  appreciating their weakness  and how far do you succeed?  S3: Ah, I take that in two parts if I may. I should say that I hope I am preeminently successful in appreciating the weaknesses to people, and  I think I'm very  sympathetic towards human weakness. I hope so. That I approach it ironically doesn’t mean that I don’t sympathise with it.  Apart from that, I would say that I am interested  in the social set-up of England today - the strains and stresses imposed upon the individual by the shifting social classes, ahh. the shifting social classes, the  way in which the people are having to adapt themselves to a  new social order, and  of course to adapt  themselves to a new national  prestige.   2:43 Now, if you mean that nobody in England should be told that they are having to  adapt themselves to a new social order, and to a new national prestige,  then in  telling them  that, I am being very hard on them. But if you think as I do, then I can only hope to make any satisfactory and  useful community in this country, when we accept this new  developments, then it seems to me, that I am being both sympathetic and understanding in viewing people, as they really are, rather than as they would like to be thought.  3:28  But  let me be a little honest, I do think that now and again, I have not , or shall we say, throughout my work, I have not perhaps, not given any very sympathetic character for this reason. That all my characters are treated from the outside.  Most  fiction, for a very long time, at any rate, since Henry James, has  written from the inside. And this does mean  that when you get in a book, the development  of one or two individuals, and the neglect of most of the rest. I have tried  to view everything from what I believe is called  god’s eye view --of  looking at  all people from outside, and it does result in what I think is fairly good, fair share for all, but perhaps no very preferential  treatment for anybody.   4:18 But I have become dissatisfied with  this recently,  and  I am in my new novel, trying now, with great difficulty,  to write from inside  - actually  a female character, and to give the maximum of sympathy to this woman, and maybe the other characters won’t   come quite so well as they have in my other book.		View more +View less -- Edited Title
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                                The Asian club: The writer and his times: Agnus Wilson
                                            
 
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                                The Asian club: The writer and his times: Agnus Wilson
                                            
 
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                                An extract from The Asian Club program features Angus Wilson discussing the serious message in his writings. He emphasizes the value of each human being and his interest in portraying the social dynamics of England.
                                            
 
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                                S1: You did mention that any writer who has a serious message must sweeten  his pill. What is the serious message that you have?  S2: Mr Wilson? 0:10  S3: That is a very very difficult question.  The serious message that I have, I hope, is that .. aah. human being must be considered as absolute values each one in himself.  That nobody, uh, tht no personal vice or personal defect can  make anybody other than absolutely valuable.  And it’s often said to me that my characters are very unpleasant, it is my view that my characters are painted as real human beings, and that what is the trouble is that most people are taught only to  like people when they have successfully sentimentalised them .  My message is to try say that true liberalism consists in  accepting all human beings  as having equal rights to absolute good treatment.  S2: Mrs Loban, I believe Mr Wilson has never given us this true message before, so we are quite lucky to have it . ( laughter) Shall we have the next question please?  S4: I’m  Amin  from Pakistan. Do you agree Mr Speaker with your critics that  you are too hard on contemporary Britons. What can be your object in exposing the people  in preference  to appreciating their weaknesses, and how far you have achieved that.  1:34 S2: Mr Wilson, here is Mr Amin from Pakistan who  says do you agree with your critics that you are too hard on contemporary Britons?  What is your object in exposing the  people  in preference to  appreciating their weakness  and how far do you succeed?  S3: Ah, I take that in two parts if I may. I should say that I hope I am preeminently successful in appreciating the weaknesses to people, and  I think I'm very  sympathetic towards human weakness. I hope so. That I approach it ironically doesn’t mean that I don’t sympathise with it.  Apart from that, I would say that I am interested  in the social set-up of England today - the strains and stresses imposed upon the individual by the shifting social classes, ahh. the shifting social classes, the  way in which the people are having to adapt themselves to a  new social order, and  of course to adapt  themselves to a new national  prestige.   2:43 Now, if you mean that nobody in England should be told that they are having to  adapt themselves to a new social order, and to a new national prestige,  then in  telling them  that, I am being very hard on them. But if you think as I do, then I can only hope to make any satisfactory and  useful community in this country, when we accept this new  developments, then it seems to me, that I am being both sympathetic and understanding in viewing people, as they really are, rather than as they would like to be thought.  3:28  But  let me be a little honest, I do think that now and again, I have not , or shall we say, throughout my work, I have not perhaps, not given any very sympathetic character for this reason. That all my characters are treated from the outside.  Most  fiction, for a very long time, at any rate, since Henry James, has  written from the inside. And this does mean  that when you get in a book, the development  of one or two individuals, and the neglect of most of the rest. I have tried  to view everything from what I believe is called  god’s eye view --of  looking at  all people from outside, and it does result in what I think is fairly good, fair share for all, but perhaps no very preferential  treatment for anybody.   4:18 But I have become dissatisfied with  this recently,  and  I am in my new novel, trying now, with great difficulty,  to write from inside  - actually  a female character, and to give the maximum of sympathy to this woman, and maybe the other characters won’t   come quite so well as they have in my other book.
                                            
 
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                                Extract from the  Broadcast entitled The Asian club: The writer and his times  The interview questioned Mr Wilson on his books in an extract from the programme Asian Club from London Calling Asia. Questioned on his view of people as they really are rather than as they would like to be thought. Copy of BBC Sound Archives  LP 23914 Angus Wilson talks to Roma Laban from 'London Calling Asia'.
                                            
 
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| Title | Class | 
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| Angus Wilson | Person | 
| Ijaz Hussain | Person | 
| Roma Laban | Person | 
					
					